We all know that there is really only one reason we have kids. I mean, yeah, there’s the whole “walking bag of donateable organs and blood” part. But the real reason one has children, the true reason, is so that you can fill up their bizarre little brains with your own pet affections, vigilantly programming them to love the things you love, and also to love you, I guess. It’s like having a parrot, but instead of teaching them to say the things you want, it’s to have the emotional bonds to the pop culture that you want.
Friends, I am going to straight up say this right here—I have miserably failed in my efforts to indoctrinate my children with the appropriate pop culture references. Well, I say that I have failed, but I feel like at least 70% of the burden of failure rests on my two very bad garbage sons, who have both proven to be just dogshit at liking the right things.
At least I’ll always have access to their organs.
Here I will recount some of the ways that my efforts have not succeeded, so that all the parents out there who are making tiny copies of themselves in the hope of forcing their genre loves on their children can learn from my mistakes.
To begin with, I had assumed that the Large Son would take to genre like a duck to water.
The main reason for this is that genre is everywhere now. It’s about as common and unremarkable as paving asphalt. Whereas in the ’80s you were considered a big ole nerd for buying a Han Solo poseable action figure, in the bright, beautiful era of the 21st century, you can buy a bag of Star Wars-themed oranges and nobody even blinks an eye.
This is way different than when I grew up, when we kept renting a wobbly VHS of A New Hope from the library, and then my dad brought home The Empire Strikes Back and suddenly we realized that they had made more of these movies, oh my God.
So the Large Son is absolutely drowning in genre exposure. He lives in an age of abundance that I was utterly denied. But does he take advantage of it? Does he religiously memorize all of the various planets, as well as the types of ships?
No. He does not. For a whole damned year he called Darth Vader “Star Vader,” and he still calls Boba Fett “Bobo Fett,” and he calls every kind of land transport an “AT-AT,” which is just abysmally fucking wrong in every kind of way. I created a spreadsheet for him but I am fairly sure he only gave it a cursory glance. Perhaps the most galling thing about it all is that, incredibly, despite having never actually watched a Star Wars movie in the six years of his life (he says they are “too loud,” which, okay, sure), he somehow already knows that Vader is Luke’s father, and he’s just utterly fucking blasé about it, too.
No, wait, that’s not true. The worst thing is that his Star Wars is all prequels, which I see now were completely engineered for children, where Jedis just casually whomp battle droids and the battle droids make humorous, honking sounds as they die, and absolutely nothing matters. This, too, is Doing Star Wars Wrong. Like, even though the Ewoks were ridiculous, I still remembered when one of them attempted to wake up the mangled corpse of its friend, and then moaned in despair as he (she? Am I not Ewok woke?) realized his friend was dead.
Even when shit got saccharine, there were still some goddamn stakes. Teddy bears got their brains blown out. It was hardcore. The way they’re doing Star Wars today is just all wrong.
One of the places I can find common ground with Large Son, though, is in the Star Wars Lego Wii game where he plays as Artoo and just makes him fall off cliffs over and over again, laughing as Artoo makes that chirrupy scream as he dies.
That’s good. That’s pretty good.
VERDICT: BAD
While this was going on, I tried to teach Smaller, Louder Son about the Biblical parables hidden within Gene Wolfe’s Book of the New Son. He responded by somehow ejecting feces out of every seam of his diaper except those around his buttocks, as if his lower torso were covered in hidden anuses.
VERDICT: VERY BAD
It seems as if Legos have somehow become the conduit for all things pop culture in our lives, and inevitably Large Son was gifted with some Lego Batman sets. These I approached with great interest. I remembered watching Batman: The Animated Series as a six-year-old, and wondering how I could possibly jimmy together a grappling hook in our shed, unaware that such a feat might be far easier for a genius, athletic, scientifically gifted billionaire than a STEM-challenged six-year-old in the South Carolina sticks.
Yet this, also, turned out to be a failure, because Large Son insisted on making Batman fight Steve from Minecraft. This is not canon. Worse, Large Son insisted that Batman would lose the fight because Batman was not—and here I quote directly—“immune to lava,” namely because Batman was incapable of carrying cobblestone.
First of all—again—this is not canon. Second of all, just because my son has not witnessed Batman carrying or utilizing cobblestone in the Minecraft universe, the idea that he is inherently incapable of doing so is preposterous bullshit. If Batman wanted to carry cobblestone, he would devote weeks of his time learning the best and most established methods of carrying cobblestone, and he’d map out dozens of plans and scenarios for carrying the cobblestone, carefully researching the mineral composition of the cobblestone, and he’d develop backup plans for the backup plans not only for carrying the cobblestone, but also implementing the cobblestone, delivering the cobblestone with surgical precision.
However, before I could finish making this argument, my son simply left.
VERDICT: WORST
After this, I approached Smaller, Louder Son and tried to strike up a conversation about how Batman: The Long Halloween, Batman: Dark Victory, and also the Hush storyline were all basically driven by the same narrative gimmick—murder mystery whodunit that lazily cycles through all available characters just to pad time—and also, man, isn’t that also basically the plot of the show Heroes, another work Jeph Loeb masterminded? However, instead of engaging with the argument, Smaller, Louder Son proceeded to yell incredibly loud, which made Wife come, and then she also yelled just incredibly loud, holy shit.
VERDICT: HOLY SHIT
I was pretty much at the end of my rope after this. As a white, middle class, male American nerd, I am only capable of expressing my anemic inner self through vapid genre references. Pop culture is my sole language of emotion! If my child does not appropriately love the intellectual properties I am attached to, will I be capable of loving either child? Especially Smaller, Louder Son, who smells like death yogurt??
But then, I realized I was perhaps going too fast. Perhaps it’s like my music teacher always said about practicing pieces slowly, and then speeding up: it’s like putting a frog in a pot, and if you slowly increase the heat, the frog won’t jump out, and the water will boil, and you’ll successfully kill the frog. (On an unrelated note: this is the worst metaphor of all time.)
So, one day while playing Legos with Large Son, I had an idea—what if we grouped the Lego dudes into two teams, with two bases, and we took turns: each turn we’d get to move one Lego person, and attack once. Each Lego person got two hit points. Whoever ran out of Lego guys first won.
He agreed. And we played a good game—and, though he was unaware that I was basically training him for countless board games, he enjoyed himself a lot.
Part of the reason he enjoyed himself, I’m sure, is that his guys outnumbered my guys three to one, and also they got all the guns, and my guys were armed with one (1) stick, and one (1) fish. This doesn’t necessarily indicate that he might not eventually love nerdy stuff. It might indicate that he’s an asshole, though.
VERDICT: POSSIBLY?
Encouraged by this, afterwards I went to Smaller, Louder Son and talked to him about how interesting it was that Emily Blunt somehow managed to star in not one but two of the most innovative sci-fi movies of the recent era, Looper (2012), and Edge of Tomorrow (2014), and also she played somewhat similar characters—a tough, independent love interest who reforms the wayward main character—and I was expanding on what’s interesting about this curious cultural symmetry when I noticed he had fallen asleep.
VERDICT: HOPELESS
Robert Jackson Bennett was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, but grew up in Katy, Texas. He attended the University of Texas at Austin and, like a lot of its alumni, was unable to leave the charms of the city. He resides there currently with his wife and children. He latest book, City of Miracles, is now available from Broadway Books.
He’s one of my favorite authors for a reason, people. Buy his book!
Uncomfortable silence.
I’ve got one son with whom I can debate the relative strengths and weaknesses of LotR characters in between him DM’ing all the various D&D games he is in.
I’ve got another son who would rather debate politics and discuss the GNP.
Sigh. It’s hard to raise them right.
You managed to put a baby to sleep! Congratulations! Is this repeatable? Have a very quiet party.
I, too, know the pain of discovering that my child already knew Vader was Luke’s father. I blame daycare. I had carefully planned our son’s indoctrination into Star Wars, an indoctrination that involved obtaining a DVD transfer of the ORIGINAL New Hope in which Han shoots first (there are very few religious principles our family adheres to, and HAN SHOT FIRST is the big one), and the fucking quisling saboteurs at fucking DAYCARE, the establishment we sent him to in the benign assumption that we would still be actually RAISING a kid while also earning living wages ourselves, showed him the remastered heresy.
End result, some years down the line: When bored enough and deprived of electronics, both of my children (AMAB and AFAB) will occasionally take a lazy poke at that bear for entertainment. “Mom, I really think Greebo shot first.” WHOSE CHILD DID YOUR FATHER TRADE MINE FOR ON THE MATERNITY WARD?
To be fair, I was too young when the first couple of Star Wars movies came out to appreciate the Luke/Vader reveal myself. I think I already knew (and didn’t think much of it) by the time I could grasp the actual plot of these things. Sure, Vader was always just his dad to me. I came out okay!
All in all, I may be in your path, though. Though I’m trying, and failing, not to saturate my son’s life with all my geek trappings so that he doesn’t rebel against it all later.
Also, my 3-year-old pronounces Luke’s mentor’s name as Bobi-Wan Kenobi. Which, frankly, is adorable.
I have a kid and can 100% confirm Mr. Bennett’s account.
Thank you for your honesty.
Oy! I read this at work and therefore had to stifle my laughter, and as a result I made a few strange gasping/ snorting sounds that my cubicle-neighbor is probably wondering about.
I can’t get my kids to sit through Star Wars, but they LOVE the Lego Star Wars games, and subsequently, Battlefront on XB1. I’m learning that I have to let them get into their own things and not get too bent out of shape if they don’t take to mine right away. Case in point, my 8 year old loves to read, but he likes mysteries, so Harry Potter and Brandon Sanderson’s Alcatraz books are a no go. Must be patient…
OMG. I was prepared to be skeptical for this article, wondering if it was just about lamenting ‘fake geeks’ (a term I hate) or that your kids are different people that you expected but I could. not. stop. laughing. through this entire thing. Especially the Minecraft parts. (What is it with Minecraft, seriously?)
I also have a large son and a small son (6 and 4) and I definitely understand the feeling of wanting them to be extensions of yourself. I have even kind of laughed at myself as (when they were younger) I bought things like Star Wars themed onesies, etc – as obviously I was advertising MY interests, not theirs. But of course what is raising children other than trying to impart what you think are good values on them – be it ideas about spirituality, religion, ethics, politics, etc – and also culture. That includes a family culture. Plus it’s just FUN to share in these things.
Still, it is important to me to recognize they are their own people so I HAVE tried to back off. I have a little practice in this as I also have a baby sister who is 13 years my junior and me and my friends raised her in all sorts of geek ways (we let her tag along to our D&D sessions). And now that she’s an adult I can see where my influence has come through, but also where she completely followed her own path. Our geekdoms overlap in some ways but veer off in others.
Thankfully, both of my kids seem obsessed with Star Wars although I do lament that he never will get the ‘big’ reveal moments. (He also really loves the Clone Wars cartoons and even…sigh…Ahsoka). I promise we tried to just let them discover on their own and it seems to have worked!
My 6 year old is getting more into reading and has been asking me to read chapter books to him. I started off with Charlotte’s Web. He wanted another after that. I forgot exactly how it got suggested, but we decided to try the Hobbit (pretty sure I seduced him with playing up the dragon/wizard/treasure angle). It was a little slow going – for awhile he said, ‘let’s only read 3 pages of this book tonight and then do Bearenstain Bears’. But he is getting a bit more interested in it, I can tell (we’re at the part where Bilbo escapes from Gollum). Also, when we got to the trolls, at the very first ‘said a voice like William’s’ he yelled out, “IT’S GANDALF!” (he loves Gandalf) I was so fucking proud.
Still, I think what is keeping him going is my promise that I’ll let him watch the movies when we are done…and in all honesty I doubt we’ll really make it through Lord of the Rings in book form before he wnats to watch those movies so…Jackson!Lord of the Rings may be his version for awhile (the fact that he’ll go through part of his life thinking Faramir tried to take the Ring is definitely the worst. Ugh!)
Stay the course, Lisamarie. We’ll always have Book Faramir. ;) He’s always there for us.
Just like Obi-Wan and the Force. Always.
As I chuckled, laughed and been-there-done-thated through the article I had a number of thoughts in no particular order:
1) My last name is actually Bobo (seriously – and it’s a fun name to have sometimes, too). I once dressed up as Boba Fett for a Star Wars-themed video at work. Everyone decided that I was Bobo Fett. Apparently, I have a fan in Large Son, even if he doesn’t know it.
2) The dead Ewok in RotJ is one of the most traumatic memories of my childhood. It’s also probably the best 10 seconds of the movie.
3) Lego is an amazing gateway drug to nerd culture. My 8yro and 6yro know a lot about Star Wars, Batman and other characters because of Lego sets. And I’m more than happy to play with Legos with them.
4) Related to point 3 – the kids get Minecraft Lego sets that intrigue me. The next thing I know, I’m playing Minecraft and asking them how to craft things. Multiplayer Minecraft is very much a family activity in my house. Their geekiness is transferring up to me, even as I try to indoctrinate them on mine.
Like Lisamarie, I was ready to skip this article just because I despise the term ‘fake geek,’ with its implications of entrance exams, gatekeeping and judgmental behavior. But I am glad I gave it a try.
I have two pieces of advice for Mr. Bennett:
1) You don’t get to pick what your children like. If things rub off on them, great. But they will grow to despise anything you force on them. And despise you for browbeating them.
2) Be patient. Sometimes things skip a generation, and you can have great fun getting your grandkids wound up about things that drive their parent crazy.
Cute kid pics. So far I am about 2/4 for raising geek kids — oldest (only) son and youngest daughter (currently 11). Her older sisters are not SF fans although one will watch Marvel movies with me. Sometimes. (And all four are readers even if I might not like what they read…)
My son, 10, has no interest in Star Wars. No idea what I did wrong there. My daughter, 7, had minor interest in it until somebody in her class told her that “girls don’t like Star Wars.” She has since become a huge fan, even appropriating the Slave I model a neighbor gave my son for Christmas. Giving in to her requests to go see Rogue One may have been a error in judgement on my part. She did fine. I, on the other hand, spent more time worrying about her reaction to certain parts of the movie, than enjoying it.
Both are big Harry Potter fans. Took a bit of work to get them started: “look, I’ll read a couple of chapters, and if you don’t like it, we can stop.” I think it was Hagrid showing up at the shack on the island that really got them hooked. We are nearly up to the really sad part of book 6. Narnia is up next, and after that, maybe The Hobbit, or A Wizard of Earthsea.
And both are seriously into Minecraft. I like the idea of the game, but it’s a bit too open-ended for me. Both love board games, although it took a while for my daughter to develop enough attention span to make it through a game. If the three of us gang up, we can even sometimes convince mommy to join a game of Hogwarts Battle.
My proudest moment, as a young father, happened in the aisles of Lowe’s Home Improvement. My son, who was barely in the first grade, wandered off while I was looking at landscaping lights. When I realized he wasn’t next to me, I looked up and there he was a little further down the aisle with the biggest grin on his little face as he held a six-foot down rod for a ceiling fan. It was twice his size. He lifted his staff and slammed it into the ground. He raised his hand and proclaimed for all to hear, “You, shall not, PASS!” I laughed, fought back a tear, gave him a big hug and have enjoyed every moment of our nerdy/geeky relationship ever since. He graduates from high school this year. My wife still shakes her head at us when she catches us watching new Samurai Jack episodes together…
I feel your pain. My daughter thinks SFF is weird and doesn’t like reading it at all. There is a slight glimmer of hope in that she is reading Narnia with school and enjoying it so fingers crossed. I guess my extensive library is being left elsewhere in my will.
@17 I was a late bloomer when it came to reading genre stuff. My Mother read The Sword of Shannara out loud when I was 11, and the next summer it was Dragonflight and Dragonquest, after the first three chapters of The White Dragon, I decided she was too slow and read myself. Never looked back since.
Be patient, and keep trying.
I never tried the whole indoctrination technique with my kids (who are now adults) but I did take them to see movies in theaters so it was great when the original Stars Wars movies were re-released. I had my DVR copies but seeing the movies on the big screen brought the magic home. I just used that exposure with any genre I liked, and found out that some of it rubbed off, as the same love developed over the years. Now only if I can get them to read more.
So cute! So relatable!
Mine, 6 and 2, are unclear right now. But I’ll keep exposing them to all things geek. But the 6 year old does not like Doctor Who. I can’t blame him. The stories are not meant for him yet. And he really needs to stop waking up while I’m trying to catch up on the show.
But when he was 4, I was able to get son to wear a Luke Skywalker costume for Halloween. He just had to have the Han Solo blaster to go with it.
And, of course, sword fights are a daily occurrence in the house. Rule One: Only fight an opponent who is also armed.
Be careful what you wish for – when allowed to choose the paint color for his room (as a 9-year-old), my son fast-forwarded the VHS tape of Star Wars (Episode 4, of course) to a point where an X-wing explodes, and pointed out the exact shade of eye-searing yellow in the flame/debris cloud that he wanted. And he got it.
I introduced my little brother (16 years younger than me) to a bunch of things. Weirdly, the one that really stuck was miniature wargaming, probably the most obscure, difficult and expensive. He is also kind of into Anime and Manga, but tends to get into series I don’t watch or read.
I got three of my six children and one of their cousins into Doctor Who by simply watching it myself and luring them in with popcorn and cookies.
People need to stop the prequel hate. They were not that bad.
Fans should also introduce kids to EU books when they’re old enough. This Disney junk is ruining Star Wars. The six movies and the Legends timeline are the real canon and much better than Disney.
I think the important thing is to make sure that the spouse likes SF before you get to the stage of raising mini-mes :)
My wife and I share a love of all things SF and geeky, and have managed to pass this onto the younguns. I have also managed to pass my passion for IT onto them both. Now all I need is for them to develop the next Angry Birds and I can retire.
Hee, very funny!
My husband’s a comic book geek, and I am somewhat but more of a Tolkien/Star Wars nerd, and our son, now 13, likes none of it. He’s still a nerd, but he’s into Minecraft (oh hey, is there a club for Minecraft Parents Anonymous or something?), and other games and books for his nerd needs. When he was younger he built a lot of Legos, but for the building part of it, not the characters. He’ll watch superhero/scifi movies though it’s kind of hilarious how devastating his after-movie commentary can be, not being much of a fan.
But he does his own thing, and that’s for the best.
A+
My husband is counting the days until our daughter is ready for him to start reading The Hobbit. (She said “no thank you” and asked for Little House in the Big Woods again.) At least she likes Batman. Or, at least, the logo. She saw a still from the animated series and argued that that wasn’t really Batman, so I don’t know where to go from there.
So what, they are children stop trying to force them to like something or obsess about something as much as you. They are there own selves.They don’t have to like something just because you force them to watch something. When you were a child did you honestly like the same movies or T.V shows your parents did ?
I’m just scrolling down to the pics..boys are too cute. Especially the younger one….more!!!
This reminds me of the scene in Clueless where the slacker kid speaks words of wisdom
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